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  dos it really matter if it was a cross or a stake???

  by highdose in

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  what does it matter?

  i belive its been found that the romans used both, so what does it matter?.

  what does it matter that the roman word for cross sounds also like a word for another god?.

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  in a word, no
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  1st Cen. Christianity - One Organization

  by StandFirm in

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  here is the promised debate.

  the subject is whether or not god has an organization.

  i'll start things simply:.

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  StandFirm, it takes a very vivid imagination to squeeze a 130 year-old American millenialist religion into the mold of First Century Christianity. Kina like trying to fit a square peg into a round hole. Who, for example, is their latter-day Agabus? Where are the collections for widows and orphans?
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  The best actors of years gone by...

  by sinis in

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  john wayne, peter o'toole, alec guiness, james caan, lee marvin, richard burton, elizabeth taylor, charleton heston, kathyrn hepburn, rock hudson, james stewart, clark gable, robert duval, robert de niro, marlon brando, robert redford, paul newman, ... wow what happened to these legends?

  today, we just have quasi fluff and nothing more....

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  Frederic March, Spencer Tracy
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  Did anyone see "Four Weddings" on TLC 2011/05/06 - JW bride

  by Scully in

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  only caught part of this program during my tea time at work last night.. the premise: 4 brides competing with each other, and hosting the other brides at their wedding, scoring the wedding and reception.

  the prize was an all expenses paid island honeymoon.

  i didn't particularly care what was on tv, but a couple of my colleagues were watching it, but boy did i ever do a double take when one of the brides, named celeste, would not enter the church for the second and third weddings, based on her beliefs as a jehovah's witness.

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  In my area, in New Jersey, JWs are increasingly opting for the ceremony to take place at the reception venue instead of the Kingdom Hall. It's one way to circumvent the intrusive, annoying need to review the details of the wedding with the elders and to grovel before them for the dubious "privilege" of being granted use of the Kingdom Hall.
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  The GB tightening their grip! Straw to break a camel's back?

  by punkofnice in

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  i post on a couple of forums and read and lurk and all that stuff.. a theme that seems to be gaining momentum is about how the gb are 'tightening their grip' and 'becoming more cultish'.. i don't read the publications anymore and oddly i read extracts of them on the forums.. punk is babbling now.............sorry...................my questions are (sorry if they're a bit long.

  sorry if i sound like satan: 'is it really so?

  ' but then i am a mentally diseased apostate).. 1. are the gb really tightening their grip or is it just the same as it ever was........but..........we just notice the propaganda more now we're out?.

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  Let's ask ourselves: What is the likely result of being fed a steady diet of "Respect us! Obey us! Or Else" in a drumbeat that gets louder and louder?
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  untitled

  by clarity in

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  for your parousal or comment if you feel like it.

  "in 1921, before most of us were born, a remarkable study began tracking the loves and lives of 1500 americans from childhood to death.

  the study continues even today, with research teams led by howard friedman still keeping tabs on the remaining few who are still alive and analyzing massive amounts of data to establish what it is precisely that led some to stay well and others to fall ill or die before their time.. > .

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  Charity, well done! You should, however, have given this item a title.
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  How is it that well educated and financially stable people become Jehovah's Witnesses?

  by 21stcenturywoman in

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  when i was growing up most of the jws around me were poor and lower middle class.

  some were middle class, but very few were upper middle class.

  only (maybe) about 1% were college educated.

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  It's a psychological phenomenon, a gnawing craving for certainty, a loathing of ambiguity and little patence for anything but simple answers to life's great imponderable questions that have little/nothing to do with a person's intelligence or affluence.
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  Socrates and Me

  by Farkel in

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  socrates is my hero and has been ever since i re-claimed my mind when i left the wt cult.

  when i read the socrates dialogues which were compiled by plato, i found my purpose in my life.. the greek political cult killed socrates because he called them on their bullshit.

  he was likely the most brilliant mind of his age (or any age), but they killed him for a very obvious reason: he didn't agree with the people in power and he was much smarter than the people in power.. he knew stuff that the people in power didn't want to hear.. i know stuff that the people in the wts don't want to hear.. socrates was an incredible genius.. i'm just a hack by comparison, but i may be just as dangerous as he, but in a smaller context.

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  Bless you Farkel, the latter-day Alcibiades! Keep 'em coming!
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  For Those Who Went: How "Special" Was Sunday's "Special Talk?"

  by Room 215 in

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  comments anyone?.

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  As Church Lady was fond of saying on SNL: "Now isn't that special?"
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  The "WOW!!" moment...Theocratic Ministry School was a sham!

  by Terry in

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  i just remembered something from long ago..... i moved to california in 1974 after i had been in "the truth" for 11 years, having full-time pioneered and also having served time in federal prison over the so-called christian neutrality issue.. i felt completely confident that my bible education was the best on planet earth.

  i had honed my skills by door to door preaching, discussion, arguments and attendance at the theocratic ministry school.. i began working as an artist in a huge company that manufactured all kinds of art, sculpture and wall hanging.

  the head of the artists was a wonderful young man, skilled artist and devout christian who took me under his wing.

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  Terry, your experience brings to mind one of my daugther's. She was required to take a comparative religion course in college, and was blown away by the wealth of Bible-related information and background. "I learned more about the Bible in the first three classes, than in years of going to meetiings!"